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5-AAAAA

1 Wando High School 4,065


2 Dorman High School 3,219


3 Summerville High School 2,878


4 Boiling Springs High School 2,332


5 Sumter High School 2,310


6 Byrnes High School 2,299


7 Carolina Forest High School 2,239


8 Mauldin High School 2,233


9 Ashley Ridge High School 2,184


10 Fort Dorchester High School 2,135


11 Dutch Fork High School 2,111


12 Hillcrest High School 2,097


13 Clover High School 2,055


14 Spring Valley High School 2,013


15 Gaffney High School 1,997


16 Rock Hill High School 1,980


17 White Knoll High School 1,916


18 Goose Creek High School 1,864


19 West Ashley High School 1,859


20 Fort Mill High School 1,853


21 Northwestern High School 1,851


22 Stratford High School 1,821


23 Blythewood High School 1,819


24 West Florence High School 1,796


25 Easley High School 1,794


26 Spartanburg High School 1,779


27 Woodmont High School 1,774


28 T L Hanna High School 1,762


29 River Bluff High School 1,756


30 Nation Ford High School 1,748


31 Irmo High School 1,716


32 Lexington High School 1,715


33 JL Mann High School 1,696


34 Laurens High School 1,654


35 Wade Hampton High School (G) 1,644


36 Riverside High School 1,641


37 Westside High School 1,638


38 James Island Charter High School 1,635


39 South Florence High School 1,628

40 Greenwood High School 1,620

41 Socastee High School 1,619

42 Conway High School 1,618
4-AAAA

43 Lugoff-Elgin High School 1,614


44 Colleton County High School 1,592


45 York Comprehensive High School 1,572


46 Cane Bay High School 1,567


47 St James High School 1,518


48 North Augusta High School 1,489


49 Ridge View High School 1,472


50 Richland Northeast High School 1,447


51 Chapin High School 1,442


52 Eastside High School 1,437


53 South Aiken High School 1,433


54 Aiken High School 1,424


55 Berkeley High School 1,396


56 Hartsville High School 1,376


57 Beaufort High School 1,364


58 Pickens High School 1,359


59 Lancaster High School 1,355


60 Greenville High School 1,352


61 Airport High School 1,346


62 Westwood High School 1,345.81


63 North Myrtle Beach High School 1,345.09


64 AC Flora High School 1,343


65 Myrtle Beach High School 1,325


66 South Pointe High School 1,293


67 Hilton Head Island High School 1,286


68 Darlington High School 1,284


69 Midland Valley High School 1,261


70 Lower Richland High School 1,239


71 Lakewood High School 1,214


72 Travelers Rest High School 1,198


73 Blue Ridge High School 1,169


74 Stall High School 1,166.67


75 Marlboro County High School 1,166.29


76 Orangeburg Wilkinson High School 1,162


77 Crestwood High School 1,158


78 Greer High School 1,156


79 Union County High School 1,147


80 Wilson High School 1,119

81 Wren High School 1,106

82 Dreher High School 1,102.99

83 Belton Honea Path High School 1,102.05

84 Daniel High School 1,099
3-AAA
85 Berea High School 1,067

86 Hanahan High School 1,048

87 Brookland-Cayce High School 1,002

88 Palmetto High School 985

89 Walhalla High School 977

90 Georgetown High School 966

91 West-Oak High School 946

92 Camden High School 937

93 Bluffton High School 936

94 Broome High School 930

95 Emerald High School 928

96 Chapman High School 922

97 Gilbert High School 912

98 Seneca High School 906

99 Lake City High School 889

100 Dillon High School 888

101 Swansea High School 877

102 May River High School (Beaufort, SC) 874

103 Clinton High School 872

104 Aynor High School 869

105 Loris High School 864

106 Waccamaw High School 853

107 Pendleton High School 846

108 Indian Land High School 843

109 Battery Creek High School 820

110 Newberry High School 819.66

111 Chester High School 819.50

112 Fairfield-Central High School 808

113 Woodruff High School 801

114 Southside High School 798

115 Powdersville High School 797

116 Manning High School 792

117 Lake Marion High School 782

118 Mid Carolina High School 778

119 Crescent High School 762

120 Strom Thurmond High School 751



121 Edisto High School 748

122 Pelion High School 742

123 Wade Hampton High School (H) 737

124 Carolina High School 723.90

125 Cheraw High School 723.19

126 Timberland High School 720
2-AAA

127 Columbia High School 718

128 Bishop England High School 710

129 Keenan High School 698

130 Marion High School 697

131 Garrett Academy of Technology High School 687

132 Liberty High School 676

133 Ridgeland-Hardeeville High School 673

134 Silver Bluff High School 668

135 Barnwell High School 663

136 Andrew Jackson High School 654

137 Chesnee High School 653

138 Kingstree High School 646

139 Buford High School 640

140 Academic Magnet High School 641

141 Lee Central High School 637

142 Woodland High School 617

143 Eau Claire High School 614

144 Landrum High School 612

145 Central High School 605

146 Saluda High School 574

147 Andrews High School 548

148 Chesterfield High School 528

149 Blacksburg High School 527

150 Ninety Six High School 523

151 Whale Branch Early College High School 521

152 Abbeville High School 517

153 Batesburg-Leesville High School 502

154 Fox Creek High School 494

155 North Charleston High School 488

156 Mullins High School 486

157 Calhoun County High School 471

158 North Central High School 469

159 Latta High School 444

160 Greer Middle College Charter High School 435

161 Greenville Technical Charter High School 430

162 CA Johnson High School 427

163 Christ Church Episcopal High School 426

164 Johnsonville High School 423

165 St Joseph's Catholic High School 422

166 Brashier Middle College Charter High School 418

167 Bamberg-Ehrhardt High School 415

168 Carvers Bay High School 408
1-A

169 Gray Collegiate Academy High School 369.94

170 Allendale-Fairfax High School 369.49

171 Lewisville High School 365

172 Dixie High School 363

173 East Clarendon High School 361

174 Hemingway High School 348

175 Hannah-Pamplico High School 346

176 Burke High School 333

177 Green Sea Floyds High School 328

178 Southside Christian High School 326

179 McBee High School 324

180 St John's High School 310

181 Ware Shoals High School 303

182 Lamar High School 297

183 Wagener-Sally High School 283

184 Charleston Charter School for Math and Science High School 277.78

185 Williston-Elko High School 277.29

186 CE Murray High School 270

187 Baptist Hill High School 266

188 Governor's School of Math and Science High School 257

189 Estill High School 240

190 Lake View High School 239

191 Great Falls High School 231

192 Military Magnet High School 220

193 Ridge Spring-Monetta High School 217

194 Timmonsville High School 212

195 McCormick High School 208

196 Cross High School 204

197 Blackville-Hilda High School 202

198 Branchville High School 199

199 Creek Bridge High School 197

200 Scotts Branch High School 193

201 Denmark Olar High School 191

202 Bethune-Bowman High School 181

203 North High School 169

204 Whitmire High School 159

205 Hunter-Kinard-Tyler High School 158

206 Tamassee-Salem High School 157

207 Palmetto Scholars Academy High School 129

208 Lincoln High School 108

209 Calhoun Falls Charter School 106

210 Royal Live Oaks Academy High School 72

211 Lowcountry Leadership Academy High School 66

212 SC School for the Deaf and Blind High School 63

213 High Point Academy High School 24
 
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Not going to happen. 5a is going to have less teams than the other classes to reduce the discrepancy. I'm hearing 32 teams in 5a and 1a and a even split amongst the rest.
 
Easley to 5A, and Pickens to 4A. Going to be a tough road for my flame. Half of the 1A schools should be consolidated with another school. Why are we keeping the doors open for anything with under 200 students.
 
Realignment
Classifications #'s
5A- 43 school Wando-Lugoff-Elgin 4,065-1614 The only things taken into account are: Numbers and Geographic Location. These are the only 2 considerations for each region in the state. We tried to keep each classification the same playoff format. This way each class is equal when it comes to going to the playoffs. We tried to get away from the idea of every team automatically qualifying, even though they have a losing record.
4A- 44 school Colleton- Brookland-Cayce 1592-1002
3A- 45 school Palmetto-Liberty 985-676
2A- 47 school Ridgeland-Mcbee 673-324
1A- 34 school St. John's- High Point 310-24
5A Playoffs: Top 4 teams from each region will automatically make the playoffs. This gives us 28 automatic qualifiers. The final 4 spots will be determined, like we have done in the past, using a resume type. Each year the number 1 overall seed will rotate to each region.
Region 1 Region 5
1-Hanna 1-West Florence
2-Westside 2- Spring Valley
3-Easley 3-White Knoll
4-Greenwood 4- River Bluff
5-Woodmont 5-Lexington
6-Laurens 6-Lugoff-Elgin The playoffs are based off a 10 game schedule. This allows teams to cross bracket with other regions.
Region 2 7-Sumter
1-Mann Region 6
2-Wade Hampton 1- Fort Dorchester The regions also continue traditional rivalries in the region.
3-Riverside 2-Summerville
4-Hillcrest 3-Ashley Ridge
5-Byrnes 4- James Island
6-Mauldin 5-Wando
Region 3 6- West Ashley
1-Dorman Region 7
2-Boiling Springs 1-Socastee
3-Gaffney 2-Goose Creek
4-Spartanburg 3-Stratford
5-Clover 4-Carolina Forest
6-Northwestern 5-South Florence
Region 4 6-Conway
1-Dutch Fork
2-Irmo
3-Rock Hill
4-Fort Mill
5-Blythewood
6-Nation Ford
 
What you have is basically the same thing we have now with school sizes, so why change classification system and basically keep the same thing? The HSL, principles, and AD were fully aware that travel would be an issue in 5A and that it might take a 2 year cycle before working out the kinks. The only real option to achieve what the new system is designed for is for 5A to be 32 teams, 4 regions of 8 teams and try and keep 1A about the same number. Then split 4A, 3A, and 2A evenly. In 5A the top 4 from each region make the playoffs.
 
They should have left it alone or went to 6As. They will destroy Class A D2 schools hope to be competitive in the playoffs. No way the Blackvilles etc compete regularly with Allendales and Bambergs and the spring sports will be worse.
 
cubones said:
What you have is basically the same thing we have now with school sizes, so why change classification system and basically keep the same thing? The HSL, principles, and AD were fully aware that travel would be an issue in 5A and that it might take a 2 year cycle before working out the kinks. The only real option to achieve what the new system is designed for is for 5A to be 32 teams, 4 regions of 8 teams and try and keep 1A about the same number. Then split 4A, 3A, and 2A evenly. In 5A the top 4 from each region make the playoffs.
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I agree with most of this. I would keep 5A and 1A classifications smaller. The whole gist of this move was disparity in size. The 2nd most important aspect was travel. Maybe you put a little pressure on the big schools to not be so big by making them have to travel all over to play their same-sized schools. And 1A? I agree to a certain extent - they need to consolidate some of the tiny one's into a more feasibly competitive team. Even if they don't actually share the school building, they could share a team. That way, only the athletes would require travel accomodations to practice, games, etc. instead of every student having to drive 25-30 miles to school, every day, one way if they consolodated the actual school buildings.

Just my $.02.

:rolleyes:
 
Super large schools such as Wando and Dorman should look at splitting. Rural counties with 3 school districts and small schools (Bamberg and Denmark, Wade Hampton and Estill, Barnwell/Williston/Blackville) should consider consolidating into 1 school.

Horry County is to blame for Carolina Forest. They could easily adjust attendance lines to send kids to either Conway, Socastee, or Myrtle Beach.
 
42 is the only way 5A is going to work. Anything less is going to create some major travel issues for several schools
 
RANK REGION 1 145 day
25 Easley 1,794
28 T L Hanna 1,762
34 Laurens H 1,654
37 Westside 1,638
40 Greenwood 1,620

RANK REGION 2 145 day
2 Dorman 3,219
4 Boiling Springs 2,332
6 Byrnes 2,299
15 Gaffney 1,997
26 Spartanburg 1,779

RANK REGION 3 145 day
8 Mauldin 2,233
12 Hillcrest 2,097
27 Woodmont 1,774
33 JL Mann 1,696
35 Wade Hampton 1,644
36 Riverside 1,641

RANK REGION 4 145 day
13 Clover 2,055
16 Rock Hill 1,980
20 Fort Mill 1,853
21 Northwestern 1,851
23 Blythewood 1,819
30 Nation Ford 1,748


RANK REGION 5 145 day
5 Sumter 2,310
7 Carolina Forest 2,239
24 West Florence 1,796
39 South Florence 1,628
41 Socastee 1,619
42 Conway 1,618

RANK REGION 6 145 day
11 Dutch Fork 2,111
14 Spring Valley 2,013
17 White Knoll 1,916
29 River Bluff 1,756
31 Irmo 1,716
32 Lexington 1,715

RANK REGION 7 145 day
1 Wando 4,065
3 Summerville 2,878
9 Ashley Ridge 2,184
10 Fort Dorchester 2,135
18 Goose Creek 1,864
19 West Ashley 1,859
22 Stratford 1,821
38 James Island 1,635

This is AAAAA
 
This is a good plan, with 42 teams. All these ideas about only having 32 or 34 in 5A won't work because you will have C. Forest and W. Florence sitting over in the Pee Dee/Grand Strand having to travel to Charleston or Columbia.
 
Um, no matter WHAT plan you suggest there will be faults. You cannot make EVERYONE happy.

Like some idiot who had Chapin playing down in the conference with the Aiken schools. Only problem was they would drive PAST three schools from other conferences to GET to Aiken. Just stupid....

o_O
 
I think I saw the plan you're talking about. In that one, should've just moved Airport to the Aiken schools and let Chapin be with the Columbia schools.
 
dacoach said:
Um, no matter WHAT plan you suggest there will be faults. You cannot make EVERYONE happy.

Like some idiot who had Chapin playing down in the conference with the Aiken schools. Only problem was they would drive PAST three schools from other conferences to GET to Aiken. Just stupid....

o_O
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About 3 years ago Midland Valley was in a region with Airport, BC, L. Richland, AC Flora, Dreher which was tough enough from a travel standpoint but then Chapin forced their way into the region by threatening the HSL with legal action. If they put MV, NA, Aiken, and South Aiken together and made Chapin play in that region it would be a form of ironic justice. I do not think that will happen. Even if it did Chapin would probably threaten to sue again. I think OW might be the 5th team. With their location OW has to drive to Charleston, Columbia, or Aiken. Second choice would probably be Airport.
 
5A - Can move Blythewood to Region 2 to even out all regions or leave them in region 3 and let 1 more team qualify for the playoffs. Top 4 qualify for playoffs from each region in all sports.

Region 1
  1. Dorman
  2. Boiling Springs
  3. Byrnes
  4. Mauldin
  5. Gaffney
  6. Spartanburg
Region 2
  1. Hillcrest
  2. Clover
  3. Rock Hill
  4. Ft. Mill
  5. NW
  6. Easley
  7. Hanna
Region 3
  1. Sumter
  2. Spring Valley
  3. Irmo
  4. Lexington
  5. Dutch Fork
  6. River Bluff
  7. White Knoll
  8. West Florence
Region 4
  1. Carolina Forest
  2. Summerville
  3. Ashley Ridge
  4. Fort. Dorchester
  5. Stratford
  6. Goose Creek
  7. Wando
  8. West Ashley
The Guru's said:
This is a good plan, with 42 teams. All these ideas about only having 32 or 34 in 5A won't work because you will have C. Forest and W. Florence sitting over in the Pee Dee/Grand Strand having to travel to Charleston or Columbia.
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Razzuli said:
About 3 years ago Midland Valley was in a region with Airport, BC, L. Richland, AC Flora, Dreher which was tough enough from a travel standpoint but then Chapin forced their way into the region by threatening the HSL with legal action. If they put MV, NA, Aiken, and South Aiken together and made Chapin play in that region it would be a form of ironic justice. I do not think that will happen. Even if it did Chapin would probably threaten to sue again. I think OW might be the 5th team. With their location OW has to drive to Charleston, Columbia, or Aiken. Second choice would probably be Airport.
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Razzuli said:
About 3 years ago Midland Valley was in a region with Airport, BC, L. Richland, AC Flora, Dreher which was tough enough from a travel standpoint but then Chapin forced their way into the region by threatening the HSL with legal action. If they put MV, NA, Aiken, and South Aiken together and made Chapin play in that region it would be a form of ironic justice. I do not think that will happen. Even if it did Chapin would probably threaten to sue again. I think OW might be the 5th team. With their location OW has to drive to Charleston, Columbia, or Aiken. Second choice would probably be Airport.
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Um.. that wasn't "Chapin".... pretty sure that story was all about Scott Early.

But let's not bring his name up in here...

;)
 
If travel is the major issue then the change should of never been made. AD and principles were very aware of the travel issue before voting on the change. Going to 42 teams does nothing to change the disparity in school sizes which is the reason they changed it in the first place.
 
cubones said:
5A - Can move Blythewood to Region 2 to even out all regions or leave them in region 3 and let 1 more team qualify for the playoffs. Top 4 qualify for playoffs from each region in all sports.

Region 1
  1. Dorman
  2. Boiling Springs
  3. Byrnes
  4. Mauldin
  5. Gaffney
  6. Spartanburg
Region 2
  1. Hillcrest
  2. Clover
  3. Rock Hill
  4. Ft. Mill
  5. NW
  6. Easley
  7. Hanna
Region 3
  1. Sumter
  2. Spring Valley
  3. Irmo
  4. Lexington
  5. Dutch Fork
  6. River Bluff
  7. White Knoll
  8. West Florence
Region 4
  1. Carolina Forest
  2. Summerville
  3. Ashley Ridge
  4. Fort. Dorchester
  5. Stratford
  6. Goose Creek
  7. Wando
  8. West Ashley
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You left out Westside.

I would put Hillcrest in Region 1 and Westside in Region 2. This would give you 2 Regions with 7 teams and 2 with 8 teams.
 
Anyone familiar with Texas high schools? I see stories all the time of schools letting out early because the have a 3+ hour ride for a game. Are these region games? Or is this just the playoffs?

Just curious.
 
Probably league games, that's a big state. They have there big division also and along with being part of the biggest division comes the travel!
 
Which is EXACTLY what I said above.... if Wando wants to have 4,000 students, then they can drive to Dorman or Boiling Springs or where ever to play the larger schools in the state.

If they don't want the travel, build another school and split 2K each.

Just sayin...

:D
 
Agree with you dacoach. Wando has 4000+ and Lincoln, just up the road, also in Charleston county, has 108 students.
 
cubones said:
5A - Can move Blythewood to Region 2 to even out all regions or leave them in region 3 and let 1 more team qualify for the playoffs. Top 4 qualify for playoffs from each region in all sports.

Region 1
  1. Dorman
  2. Boiling Springs
  3. Byrnes
  4. Mauldin
  5. Gaffney
  6. Spartanburg
Region 2
  1. Hillcrest
  2. Clover
  3. Rock Hill
  4. Ft. Mill
  5. NW
  6. Easley
  7. Hanna
Region 3
  1. Sumter
  2. Spring Valley
  3. Irmo
  4. Lexington
  5. Dutch Fork
  6. River Bluff
  7. White Knoll
  8. West Florence
Region 4
  1. Carolina Forest
  2. Summerville
  3. Ashley Ridge
  4. Fort. Dorchester
  5. Stratford
  6. Goose Creek
  7. Wando
  8. West Ashley
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Why would Hillcrest, Easley, and Hanna be in a region with York County teams? That just doesn't make sense, especially for other sports.
 
It does not, was not going to post that and I guess I did on accident.

It's my belief that Wando wants to be that big, better chance of winning across the board in all sports.

Really pretty simple. Either you have a 5A division with 32 teams and travel or go back to 42 or whatever and basically keep it the same.
 
BE is a private school and is not under CCSD. The school itself is located in Berkeley County and is in the attendance zone of Hanahan.
 
From my understanding, parents don't want Wando to split. It is all about that name and they think if the school splits, it won't be able to offer what it does now.
 
BallCoach17 said:
From my understanding, parents don't want Wando to split. It is all about that name and they think if the school splits, it won't be able to offer what it does now.
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Well its in the works. East Cooper High is supposed to open within 5 years at the site of the old Wando high
 
What about this for 5A...any thoughts
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