Don't sleep on Riverbluff and Ashley Ridge next year.
Never sleep on the Eastside of 5a! RB already taking new a recruit to Virginia Beach!
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Don't sleep on Riverbluff and Ashley Ridge next year.
Your bias is understood and appreciated. RH has always been a great program. Back in my day it was a Laprad/Sville & Barnes/RH battle every year. Those two teams had a stranglehold on the State Title for quite a while. Some of the most entertaining battles(both wrestlers and coaches) along with to this day, for me, the most complete/talented teams top to bottom I have seen.
I think right now Fort and RH are the odds on favorites to meet for the state title.
I'm going to make an early prediction...... Fort captures Dual State Title and individual champions with 5 individual titles!
It's funny because it is true.Never sleep on the Eastside of 5a! RB already taking new a recruit to Virginia Beach!
I would certainly be selfish and put my son in the program I feel will best help him reach his goals and I wouldn't lose a minute of sleep in the process. This isn't football or baseball where a kid in SC can still flourish individually/get recruited while playing for any level of program. Wrestling is different.
Give me a program where coaches have proven they can develop kids/technique, versus running a basic training, a program that provides year round training, a program that travels to give kids bigger opportunities, and I'll buy in.
No college coach is ultimately going to care if your kid won a SC State Title, they are going to care how your kid has done at events like Super 32, NHSCA/Flo, and Fargo. That is what will ultimately get them recruited and quality coaching and competition is what will help a kid be successful at those events. I have seen some HS wrestling rooms/practices where it is easy to see why kids potential aren't being fully realized. If my son were zoned for a school that had one of those lazy programs, I would certainly do all I could to get him into the right environment.
I wil give Eastside credit for going to tournaments like Beast of The East etc. I believe Lexington regularly travels out of state also. I'm confident if more programs were doing the same, you wouldnt see kids/parents targeting programs like Eastside. The bigger issue to me is why so few of those type of programs exist in the state.
What happened to people's sense of community? Are people really so overly ambitious that you move your kid to another school to chase a championship? If your kid is really that good, supplement their high school with club, and travel. Seek out private lessons. I think it is absolute bullshit to hear everyone's excuses. People put their kids in these schools, (Eastside, River Bluff, etc..) to chase rings & glory, not for their kids best interest. I have so much more respect for people who actually go where they are zoned, and work to improve a program, than someone chasing glory the easy way. I don't fault those programs or coaches, but rather the lame excuses for parents who make that decision. Those coaches at said schools work their asses off to have those good programs I am sure. This is not to slight them. You pick your college, not your high school. Grow a set.
"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one" - Bruce Lee
Finally! Someone put my thoughts to words! LowcountryWrestlingFan, there's really no sense of community anymore. It's kind of sad. It's rare today to see little kids at parks, gyms, etc. watching the "big boys & girls" with that look in their eyes of wanting to be them one day. Esp. in upstate SC it's "if you want your kid to be good at bball go to..., baseball go to..., football," and so on. If you get mad just transfer. We're blessed with great schools in my community. Only reason I'd take my kids out of a school would be if it were a physical risk to their well being or the academics were below standard. Well said.
What happened to people's sense of community? Are people really so overly ambitious that you move your kid to another school to chase a championship? If your kid is really that good, supplement their high school with club, and travel. Seek out private lessons. I think it is absolute bullshit to hear everyone's excuses. People put their kids in these schools, (Eastside, River Bluff, etc..) to chase rings & glory, not for their kids best interest. I have so much more respect for people who actually go where they are zoned, and work to improve a program, than someone chasing glory the easy way. I don't fault those programs or coaches, but rather the lame excuses for parents who make that decision. Those coaches at said schools work their asses off to have those good programs I am sure. This is not to slight them. You pick your college, not your high school. Grow a set.
"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one" - Bruce Lee
There are so many bullshit answers given on this subject! Eastside is a good program because they go out and get kids. Take the kids away they recruited in and they don't beat BHP! Any coach could win with their recruits! It's the "I am entitled" attitude of the families too. I'd rather my kid be somebody that started the dynasty, not a bandwagon kid. The real world will be a shocker to these young athletes! It will be the fault of their parents! Those coaches that are recruiting you for wins now won't give a shit about you in 5 years!
These coaches and other parents posting on here think and say the same thing I'm posting but it's not politically correct for them to say it in public. Had a few say that in my presence.
Are you really doing what's best for your kid by allowing him to be recruited? Or are you doing it so you can brag to the Facebook, Twitter, Instagram world that your baby is a team state champion.
With a name that starts with Lowcountry, I assume you are involved in some form with a local team. Maybe you can enlighten me on where all the opportunities for supplemental club training exists in the Lowcountry? Is there a dedicated training facility with great coaching that I have somehow managed to miss. Maybe you can disclose what program you are part of where all that exists so I can check it out.
If a Team State Title did anything to help a kid go to college and wrestle, then your chasing glory the easy way comment might apply. In this case though, it doesn't, and tells me you and I aren't even really looking at the same things. Quality of coaching, the level of competition kids face, and emphasis on off season wrestling, will actually help a kid to get to the next level, so somehow it's not in a kids best interest to go to the school who's program does all those things?
I live in Dorchester County, Summerville, Fort D, Ashley Ridge. In my case from an educational standpoint, I don't see a disadvantage with attending either of those schools. If my kids passion happens to be a sport where only one or two of those programs are actually doing the things mentioned above, please enlighten me on how that lacks a sense of community?
I mean seriously, these schools are all so close together, lines get changed, sense of community has zero to do with it.
For those kids who are 100% dedicated and driven to reach big goals, they deserve a program that is 100% committed to helping them achieve those goals if that opportunity exists, if that means drive a few extra miles to get there, so be it.
I've wrestled, been around the sport for a long time, coached before I ever had kids, so I feel I can responsibly give guidance to my son with the sport. When he plays soccer, baseball or anything else, I leave the coaching and guidance to those better equipped then myself.
If you feel that there is some character building victory a kid will gain by choosing a program that doesn't give them the best chance to be successful, you are entitled to your opinion. I believe the sport of wrestling itself teaches all the important qualities we want our young children/adults to have. I don't think a parent putting their kid in the best environment diminishes that one bit.
I don't think that makes any parent weak or suggests they have to grow a set.
Can somebody post how many college wrestlers from each high school? Not guys that have went and dropped out in 2 months! Let's see which schools are really developing these kids into young men. Ready, Set, Go!!!
I have a feeling the results will show parents send kids to certain schools because of team state championships.
Can somebody post how many college wrestlers from each high school? Not guys that have went and dropped out in 2 months! Let's see which schools are really developing these kids into young men. Ready, Set, Go!!!
I have a feeling the results will show parents send kids to certain schools because of team state championships.
I guess by that thought process we should look down upon David Taylor , Mark Hall and the countless other college wrestlers and their families for moving to top tier MS/HS programs to put them in the best environment to be successful, taking the easy way?
We are just thinking on different levels.
SC kids have to work harder then 90% of the other states wrestlers to get College recruiting attention. I think to suggest that in that environment a kid and his family shouldn't pursue a program that is a legal option, does more to develop wrestlers/gives their wrestlers more opportunity, is silly.
They went to schools that get wrestlers ready for college, etc. Sure these schools you keep defending have great team results but none of them send more kids to college over any other school in SC. Why is that if they have superior training?
SButler,
I certainly agree there is nothing easy about wrestling. I think your argument that is invalid in that the tougher path is to build YOUR program in to the better program. Not the path of least resistance.
If a kid transfers from Travelers Rest to Eastside is he not still in the same region? If a kid transfers from White Knoll or Lexington to River Bluff, are they not in the same region? I think these are fundamental points that are ignored. The kids are being placed in those programs to achieve team success.
The off season is where the true tough competition can be faced. A less successful program can still send their kid to the Southern Slam, or the Coastal Clash to face the tougher competition during the season.
I will use two kids as examples that I should not, because I only know them in passing. Dylan Bailey attends Wren. Hardly a wrestling powerhouse by anyone's standards. No offense to their coaching staff or wrestlers but that school is not the picture off success in wrestling. Dylan is always training with Trent Goodale, and traveling to the toughest out of state off season competitions.
Ben Dodd attends Travelers Rest, and also trains with Goodale, and placed second at state this year. He also wrestles in the off season & attends a school whose best wrestlers have enrolled in Eastside. They are both in Greenville county with the same option to choose the school they attend. Those kids have a tremendous work ethic, and have worked to build their school up. That garners far more respect from me. Call that a difference in opinion, but I still believe it is a cop out. Find tough drill partners. Find good coaching. If that means you had to work harder than others, you are better off for it. That is life.
Lets just cut to the chase..... everyone that is saying "I want to help SC kids get better and improve their chances at college opportunities" great!!!!!..... volunteer your time or coach for minimum pay like so many great people do. Lots of programs around the state have LOTS of great people that volunteer and dont get paid, nor do they expect to. THEY WANT TO HELP KIDS SUCCEED.
Dont expect kids or USA wrestling to pay you for "Helping SC kids"
If you want to earn a living off of kids and earn praise when they succeed, then say "I want to exploit kids for my benefit"
Someone mentioned Gymnastics and cheerleading having places to go and develop. Those are super expensive sports that are trying to earn money off kids.
I am just confused as to what people are really marketing here. But again....I am mexican.... I get confused easily..... Back to landscaping
volunteer your time or coach for minimum pay like so many great people do. Lots of programs around the state have LOTS of great people that volunteer and dont get paid, nor do they expect to. THEY WANT TO HELP KIDS SUCCEED.
No answer on how many 4 year college wrestlers have graduated from Eastside in the last 10 years?
Next question. How many transfers does Fort Mill, Rock Hill, West Oak, BHP, Fort D, Lexington, AR, Chapin, Battery Creek, and Hilton Head have on their roster? All solid programs with good coaches.
I think you have me mistaken. I'm not defending any school. My comments are in general.
There are HS wrestling programs in this state that have coaches that no little about the sport of wrestling, never mind how to teach it. They are just filling a void picking up some extra $. So if my kid is zoned to go to a program like that, but has an option to go to a school with a solid program, I'm supposed to just keep him in the program being run by the assistant tennis coach. That will somehow provide him with some valuable life lessons about taking the hard path.....and he will be better for it......Sorry just can't follow that logic!!
Lets just cut to the chase..... everyone that is saying "I want to help SC kids get better and improve their chances at college opportunities" great!!!!!..... volunteer your time or coach for minimum pay like so many great people do. Lots of programs around the state have LOTS of great people that volunteer and dont get paid, nor do they expect to. THEY WANT TO HELP KIDS SUCCEED.
Dont expect kids or USA wrestling to pay you for "Helping SC kids"
If you want to earn a living off of kids and earn praise when they succeed, then say "I want to exploit kids for my benefit"
Someone mentioned Gymnastics and cheerleading having places to go and develop. Those are super expensive sports that are trying to earn money off kids.
I am just confused as to what people are really marketing here. But again....I am mexican.... I get confused easily..... Back to landscaping
Lets just cut to the chase..... everyone that is saying "I want to help SC kids get better and improve their chances at college opportunities" great!!!!!..... volunteer your time or coach for minimum pay like so many great people do. Lots of programs around the state have LOTS of great people that volunteer and dont get paid, nor do they expect to. THEY WANT TO HELP KIDS SUCCEED.
Dont expect kids or USA wrestling to pay you for "Helping SC kids"
If you want to earn a living off of kids and earn praise when they succeed, then say "I want to exploit kids for my benefit"
Someone mentioned Gymnastics and cheerleading having places to go and develop. Those are super expensive sports that are trying to earn money off kids.
I am just confused as to what people are really marketing here. But again....I am mexican.... I get confused easily..... Back to landscaping
Cool, the main recruiter from Eastside is liking all my post.
Even got some to spend their hard earned money on t shirts!
SButler - if these so called "great schools" are not sending their wrestlers to college for 4 years, what is the reason to send them there? It's to win high school state team titles. When those same kids are serving burgers in 5 years, tell me what they get from transferring???? If you sent your child there and he won 4 team state titles but didn't go off to college to wrestle....would that be considered a success?
It is frustrating when high school coaches recruit to win state titles to cement their legacy but in the long run do nothing for the kids.
The part about the terrible coaches I get. I don't think that the schools being discussed in specific fall in to those categories. I'll be curious to see which way you swing since that logic really doesn't apply in Dorchester county. All three schools have solid coaching staffs.
Cool, the main recruiter from Eastside is liking all my post.
Even got some to spend their hard earned money on t shirts!
SButler - if these so called "great schools" are not sending their wrestlers to college for 4 years, what is the reason to send them there? It's to win high school state team titles. When those same kids are serving burgers in 5 years, tell me what they get from transferring???? If you sent your child there and he won 4 team state titles but didn't go off to college to wrestle....would that be considered a success?
It is frustrating when high school coaches recruit to win state titles to cement their legacy but in the long run do nothing for the kids.
This might be the MOST idiotic thing I have EVER heard. Does a student athlete have to wrestle in college to be considered a success? Does he even have to wrestle for a D1 school to be considered a success? I think not. The person he becomes through wrestling, is the success. Teaching technique, reviewing skills drills and conditioning are the easy parts. Helping them understand what good choices and developing character, not so much. If you would like to discuss whether Eastside and their coaches help do this, have a talk with some of their graduates. I have been fortunate enough to get to work with some of them.
Why is that even in question? Why does it matter if they go to wrestle in college? If you don't think that being part of an elite wrestling program, like Eastside will help mold them into successful individuals for the rest of their lives, you are derangedAnd you are an Eagle dumbass! These kids are not going to Eastside for the academics only. kids get academic scholarships from the schools they left! They are transferring for wrestling! If the Eagles' wrestling team sucked they would not be there.
If they are transferring for wrestling, how many kids go off to wrestle in college?
Why is that even in question? Why does it matter if they go to wrestle in college? If you don't think that being part of an elite wrestling program, like Eastside will help mold them into successful individuals for the rest of their lives, you are deranged